What if we’ve misunderstood one of Jesus’ most familiar commands? In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, a simple but unsettling shift is explored: not “make disciples,” but disciple as you are going. Drawing from a recent conversation between Dr. Tony Blair and Michael, Andrew and Michael reflect on how a closer reading of the Great …
Episode 218: Kingdom Collaboration with GACX
What if the greatest barrier to kingdom collaboration isn’t theology—but ego? In this episode, we sit down with leaders from GACX (Global Alliance for Church Multiplication) to explore a radically different vision of partnership—one that doesn’t begin with “what do I gain?” but with “what can I give?” From global church planting networks to theological …
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Episode 217: A New Year’s Break
In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew Johnson shares an update as the podcast enters a short hiatus. While the hosts are away on assignment, Andrew invites you to revisit the rich archive of over 200 episodes—conversations that continue to challenge, encourage, and shape how we do theology in community. Looking ahead to 2026, …
Episode 216: A Shift in Leadership Paradigms with Lance Ford
In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew Johnson, Michael, and guest Lance Ford delve into the themes of church leadership, the disconnect between leadership and the body of Christ, and the systemic issues that plague modern church structures. They discuss the impact of Lance's book, 'The Atlas Factor,' which emphasizes the need for a …
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Episode 215: Bonhoeffer and Nationalism with Mark Thiessen Nation
In this episode of the Ephesiology podcast, Andrew, Michael, and Matt are visited again by Mark Thiessen Nation, exploring the profound impact of Dietrich Bonhoeffer's life and writings on contemporary Christianity. In this episode, our hosts talk to Mark about the dangers of nationalism within the church. They discuss the importance of robust discipleship, the …
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Episode 214: Bonhoeffer the Pastor with Steve Bezner
In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew Johnson, Michael, and Matt Till engage with Dr. Steve Bezner, exploring the implications of Bonhoeffer's theology for contemporary church leadership. They discuss the importance of maintaining a distinct Christian identity in a politically charged environment, the role of pastors in shepherding their congregations, and the need for …
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Episode 213: Ministering in Chicago with Watson Jones III
In this episode of the Ephesiology podcast, Andrew, Matt, and Michael welcome Watson Jones III, an executive pastor in Chicago, to discuss the current climate of shepherding in the city. They explore the challenges faced by the church in light of social issues, the historical context of the church's role in society, and the shifts …
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Episode 212: Reactivating the Church as Movement
In this episode of the Ephesiology podcast, Andrew, Michael, and Matt engage with Dr. Wes Watkins to explore the dynamics of church movements, the importance of understanding movements in a contemporary context, and the integration of Motus Dei with Missio Dei. They discuss the characteristics of movements, the role of the Holy Spirit, and the …
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Episode 211: Rethinking Ekklesia with Dr. Ralph Korner
In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Dr. Ralph Korner discusses the concept of ekklesia, its historical context, and its implications for the modern church. He emphasizes the importance of community, social justice, and the church's role in society, arguing against a separatist mentality and advocating for active engagement with the world. The conversation explores …
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Episode 210: Unpacking Bonhoeffer’s Legacy with Mark Thiessen Nation
In this episode of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew, Matt, and Michael engage in a deep conversation with Mark Thiessen Nation about the life and works of Dietrich Bonhoeffer. They explore Bonhoeffer's stance on pacifism, the influence of Eberhard Bethge, and the misrepresentation of Bonhoeffer in popular media. The discussion delves into the complexities of Bonhoeffer's …
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Episode 195: What Actually Starts Movements with Emanuel Prinz
On this episode of The Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael sit down Dr. Emanuel Prinz—researcher, author, practitioner, professor, and soon-to-be PhD in International Theological Education. With stories of rebel leaders laying down their weapons and whole villages turning to Christ, Emanuel invites us into a world where communal conversion, catalytic leadership, and the slow work of …
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Episode 163: Does this go past 11?
On this special edition of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue the series called Make Disciples. On this episode, they ask the question (and try to answer it in part), "are there more than 11 characteristics of a disciple?" Be sure to follow along with us in Michael's recent book, Make Disciples: Discover the …
Episode 162: Make Disciples with Jeff Vanderstelt
On this special edition of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue the series called Make Disciples. On this episode, they are joined by Jeff Vanderstelt to talk about how disciples make more disciples. Be sure to follow along with us in Michael's recent book, Make Disciples: Discover the Spiritual Journey of a Christ-Follower and …
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Episode 161: Multiply with Michelle and Rob Wegner
On this special edition of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue a the series called Make Disciples. On this episode, they are joined by Michelle and Rob Wegner to talk about how disciples multiply. Be sure to follow along with us in Michael's recent book, Make Disciples: Discover the Spiritual Journey of a Christ-Follower …
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Episode 160: Suffer with Emmanuel Tsoutsas
On this special edition of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue a the series called Make Disciples. On this episode, they are joined by Emmanuel Tsoutsas to talk about how disciples suffer. Be sure to follow along with us in Michael's recent book, Make Disciples: Discover the Spiritual Journey of a Christ-Follower and watch …
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Episode 159: Learn with Liz Rios
On this special edition of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue a the series called Make Disciples. On this episode, they are joined by Liz Rios to talk about how disciples learn. Be sure to follow along with us in Michael's recent book, Make Disciples: Discover the Spiritual Journey of a Christ-Follower and watch …
Episode 158: Respectful with Miguel Castillo
On this special edition of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue a new series called Make Disciples. On this episode, they are joined by Miguel Castillo to talk about how disciples are respectful. Be sure to follow along with us in Michael's recent book, Make Disciples: Discover the Spiritual Journey of a Christ-Follower and …
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Episode 157: Pray with Danielle Strickland
On this special edition of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue a new series called Make Disciples. On this episode, they are joined by Danielle Strickland to talk about how disciples pray. Be sure to follow along with us in Michael's recent book, Make Disciples: Discover the Spiritual Journey of a Christ-Follower and watch …
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Episode 156: Godly with Bev Murrill
On this special edition of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue a new series called Make Disciples. On this episode, they are joined by Bev Murrill to talk about how disciples are godly. Be sure to follow along with us in Michael's recent book, Make Disciples: Discover the Spiritual Journey of a Christ-Follower and …
Episode 155: Witness with Tim Catchim
On this special edition of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue a new series called Make Disciples. On this episode, they are joined by Tim Catchim to talk about how disciples witness. Be sure to follow along with us in Michael's recent book, Make Disciples: Discover the Spiritual Journey of a Christ-Follower and watch …
Episode 154: Unite with Rob Kelly
On this special edition of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue a new series called Make Disciples. On this episode, they are joined by Rob Kelly to talk about how disciples unite on mission. Be sure to follow along with us in Michael's recent book, Make Disciples: Discover the Spiritual Journey of a Christ-Follower …
Episode 153: Prepare with Bree Mills
On this special edition of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue a new series called Make Disciples. On this episode, they are joined by Bree Mills to talk about how disciples prepare. Be sure to follow along with us in Michael's recent book, Make Disciples: Discover the Spiritual Journey of a Christ-Follower and watch …
Episode 152: Encounter People with Michael Frost
On this special edition of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael continue a new series called Make Disciples. On this episode, they are joined by Mike Frost to talk about how disciples encounter people. Be sure to follow along with us in Michael's recent book, Make Disciples: Discover the Spiritual Journey of a Christ-Follower and …
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Episode 151: God’s Will with Lucas Pulley and Bill Couchenour
On this special edition of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael begin a new series called Make Disciples. On this episode, they are joined by Lucas Pulley and Bill Couchenour to talk about God's will. Be sure to follow along with us in Michael's recent book, Make Disciples: Discover the Spiritual Journey of a Christ-Follower …
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Episode 150: What is a Disciple with Alan Hirsch
On this special edition of the Ephesiology Podcast, Andrew and Michael begin a new series called Make Disciples. On this episode, they are joined by Alan Hirsch to talk about the definition of "disciple." Be sure to follow along with us in Michael's recent book, Make Disciples: Discover the Spiritual Journey of a Christ-Follower and …
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